Multiplayer Discussion
Sep 26, 2019 @ 12:44pm
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upuaut2 replied to Multiplayer Discussion September 4, 2019 @ 2:11:53 am PDT
Originally posted by Dragon:It's obviously going to be microstranaction-filled cash-grab garbage just like Red Dead Online and GTA Online.
This is nothing to be excited about. On the contrary: it proves false CDPR's previous public statements that Cyberpunk will have no microtransactions because "we leave greed to others."
now we see why they needed to get rid of third person cutscenes. they needed to cut features in order to get their multiplaying working , not so much for the sake of inmersion lame excuse they came up with .
1:38 am, May 4, 2020
hashpipe123 replied to Multiplayer Discussion August 21, 2019 @ 12:15:22 pm PDT
Originally posted by Bluem:Originally posted by hashpipe123:The elder scrolls online was terrible, bought and played for like 3 days when it first came out. Those are mmos btw not rpgs. They have rpg elements but not a classic rpg experience I feel. Like I said just my opinion. Even swtor is an mmo first before rpg but did a decent enough job that it felt like an rpg. But I wouldn’t call it one.
The Elder Scrolls Online is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) developed by ZeniMax Online Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks.[1][2] It was originally released for Microsoft Windows and OS X in April 2014.[3] It is a part of The Elder Scrolls series, of which it is the first multiplayer installment.
source: Wikipedia, official Bethesda website
Release Date: April 4, 2014
In this moment, players online: 15,000 (only in steam)
Because you don't like a game, it means that others don't like it.
Thank you for your opinion, but I repeat: You need to know more about video games. I am sorry if that offends you
More to know about video games? What do I need to know? Everything u just copied and pasted from the wiki everyone knows. Yes I’m aware Bethesda made elder scrolls online, I’m also aware it’s an mmorpg. I’m aware people like it. I’m just saying cyberpunk is going to be an RPG just like the Witcher not an mmorpg because they entirely different.
12:04 am, June 6, 2020
hashpipe123 replied to Multiplayer Discussion August 21, 2019 @ 12:11:38 pm PDT
Originally posted by Engels78:I prefer SP RPG not another MMO RPG. And only MP I would like to have is 2 or max 3 persons Coop... And done the same way like in Borderlands 2 or Dying Light.
Second this
12:04 am, June 6, 2020
hashpipe123 replied to Multiplayer Discussion August 21, 2019 @ 10:53:36 am PDT
I honestly did not mean to offend you, I just was stating my input on multiplayer staying out of rpg’s. If it makes you feel better I read your OP and still feel the same way. I am sorry if that offends you
12:04 am, June 6, 2020
hashpipe123 replied to Multiplayer Discussion August 21, 2019 @ 10:49:50 am PDT
The elder scrolls online was terrible, bought and played for like 3 days when it first came out. Those are mmos btw not rpgs. They have rpg elements but not a classic rpg experience I feel. Like I said just my opinion. Even swtor is an mmo first before rpg but did a decent enough job that it felt like an rpg. But I wouldn’t call it one.
12:04 am, June 6, 2020
hashpipe123 replied to Multiplayer Discussion August 21, 2019 @ 10:38:32 am PDT
I didn’t even wanna read all that but multiplayer needs to stay out of the rpg genre if you ask me. When I’m playing an rpg I want focus on story. The story is never that great when online multiplayer comes into picture. Look at fallout 76 and see how that turned out. Another rpg that should stay single player. I don’t want multiplayer in my fallout games or elder scrolls, the Witcher, cyberpunk, mass effect, I don’t want multiplayer in any of my rpg’s. If I wanna play multiplayer there’s plenty of other genre’s that do it better and don’t ruin the experience. All my personal input of course
12:04 am, June 6, 2020
Valkyrie replied to Multiplayer Discussion September 4, 2019 @ 1:22:53 am PDT
https://twitter.com/CDPROJEKTRED/status/1169158024482762761?s=19
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https://twitter.com/CDPROJEKTRED/status/1169158028010119170?s=19
1:38 am, May 4, 2020
RasaNova replied to Multiplayer Discussion September 4, 2019 @ 3:06:21 am PDT
Originally posted by FKA Fencer:I don't necessarily have anything against MP, but it does make me more worried about the development of the SP component of this game. The existence and eventual popularity of GTA:O was the cause for GTA V having the worst SP in the entire series.Originally posted by BlackLabel:
How is them working on MP bad ? wtf is wrong with People...
Since this game is an RPG (is it still an RPG?), the SP should obviously be the absolute main priority of the development team, not the potential cash cow that MP could be. There are still a few months to go before the release, so they might be able to pull it off successfully, but I've seen quite few cases of SP franchises trying to have a MP mode and the eventual SP suffered for it.
I'm sure these will be the concerns of quite a few people out there upon hearing this news. My main point was that CDPR need to address all of these topics properly to instill confidence in their fanbase.
I've also seen you rabidly defending this game the past couple of days. Take a breather.
But, the path they are taking contradicts your concern. They are actively delaying multiplayer til some future date, so they CAN deliver a good single player game. How would you rather see them handle it? Scrap MP completely?
I agree that it would be nice if CDPR wsa more active in addressing some of these concerns, but at the same time I don't really blame them. They can't win, even when delivering news to address something people were angry about (no multiplayer for example) it just becomes yet another reason for people to bash them. ANYTHING they say gets twisted, misread, misunderstood or deliberately misrepresented.
And yes, don't worry this is still an RPG even though people are calling it a shooter in an attempt to manufacture more outrage.
1:38 am, May 4, 2020
RasaNova replied to Multiplayer Discussion September 4, 2019 @ 2:41:43 am PDT
Seriously. People screeched about the game being single player with no coop. They announce multiplayer, people are complaining and accusing them of turning the game into a shooter with microtransactions?Originally posted by BlackLabel:Originally posted by FKA Fencer:The more is known about this game, the worse it gets. CDPR needs to properly address these topics with the fans.
How is them working on MP bad ? wtf is wrong with People...
And people wonder why gamers are getting such a bad rep...
1:38 am, May 4, 2020
Purpleetea replied to Multiplayer Discussion September 4, 2019 @ 1:28:48 am PDT
At this point they should add microtransactions and skins also.Originally posted by upuaut2:will fit well now that the game turned into a shooter. multiplayer is a most in such a case
1:38 am, May 4, 2020
Nyx replied to Multiplayer Discussion August 21, 2019 @ 4:33:14 pm PDT
I have all faith in CD Project Red that they will consider the best way to get multiplayer/online features into the game. I would love playing with my friends with player-created characters instead of playing V in a seperate MP mode.
I am all for open world, definitely but think like a scenario like this. You and your friends met up and gather at a bar (or a very naughty club) you'll get a call from a fixer and if you so decide (you can ignore it) You and your friends go over and meet up with the fixer where you'll get a mission to extract information from a computer - another team of players would maybe get a contract to stop you guys from stealing it on the spot. (Bang! PVP)
In a way like this it is also faithful to the RPG-Tabletop as you and your friends are basically like a party.
I don't really want it to be like GTA V though, because it is a gankmatch. Where GTA V online shine is on the private RP servers.
12:04 pm, June 24, 2020
KiT2142 replied to Multiplayer Discussion September 4, 2019 @ 3:16:19 am PDT
Originally posted by RasaNova:Originally posted by FKA Fencer:I don't necessarily have anything against MP, but it does make me more worried about the development of the SP component of this game. The existence and eventual popularity of GTA:O was the cause for GTA V having the worst SP in the entire series.
Since this game is an RPG (is it still an RPG?), the SP should obviously be the absolute main priority of the development team, not the potential cash cow that MP could be. There are still a few months to go before the release, so they might be able to pull it off successfully, but I've seen quite few cases of SP franchises trying to have a MP mode and the eventual SP suffered for it.
I'm sure these will be the concerns of quite a few people out there upon hearing this news. My main point was that CDPR need to address all of these topics properly to instill confidence in their fanbase.
I've also seen you rabidly defending this game the past couple of days. Take a breather.
But, the path they are taking contradicts your concern. They are actively delaying multiplayer til some future date, so they CAN deliver a good single player game. How would you rather see them handle it? Scrap MP completely?
I agree that it would be nice if CDPR wsa more active in addressing some of these concerns, but at the same time I don't really blame them. They can't win, even when delivering news to address something people were angry about (no multiplayer for example) it just becomes yet another reason for people to bash them. ANYTHING they say gets twisted, misread, misunderstood or deliberately misrepresented.
And yes, don't worry this is still an RPG even though people are calling it a shooter in an attempt to manufacture more outrage.
Even game description in steam says it's action adventure, not RPG
1:38 am, May 4, 2020
KiT2142 replied to Multiplayer Discussion September 4, 2019 @ 3:09:58 am PDT
Originally posted by BlackLabel:Originally posted by FKA Fencer:The more is known about this game, the worse it gets. CDPR needs to properly address these topics with the fans.
How is them working on MP bad ? wtf is wrong with People...
Because multiplayer is a definition of cancer, not to mention possibility of scraping some singleplayer content in order to put more people to work for multiplayer
1:38 am, May 4, 2020
Grendel replied to Multiplayer Discussion August 21, 2019 @ 4:33:14 pm PDT
I have all faith in CD Project Red that they will consider the best way to get multiplayer/online features into the game. I would love playing with my friends with player-created characters instead of playing V in a seperate MP mode.
I am all for open world, definitely but think like a scenario like this. You and your friends met up and gather at a bar (or a very naughty club) you'll get a call from a fixer and if you so decide (you can ignore it) You and your friends go over and meet up with the fixer where you'll get a mission to extract information from a computer - another team of players would maybe get a contract to stop you guys from stealing it on the spot. (Bang! PVP)
In a way like this it is also faithful to the RPG-Tabletop as you and your friends are basically like a party.
I don't really want it to be like GTA V though, because it is a gankmatch. Where GTA V online shine is on the private RP servers.
12:04 am, June 6, 2020
FKA replied to Multiplayer Discussion September 4, 2019 @ 2:54:37 am PDT
I don't necessarily have anything against MP, but it does make me more worried about the development of the SP component of this game. The existence and eventual popularity of GTA:O was the cause for GTA V having the worst SP in the entire series.Originally posted by BlackLabel:Originally posted by FKA Fencer:The more is known about this game, the worse it gets. CDPR needs to properly address these topics with the fans.
How is them working on MP bad ? wtf is wrong with People...
Since this game is an RPG (is it still an RPG?), the SP should obviously be the absolute main priority of the development team, not the potential cash cow that MP could be. There are still a few months to go before the release, so they might be able to pull it off successfully, but I've seen quite few cases of SP franchises trying to have a MP mode and the eventual SP suffered for it.
I'm sure these will be the concerns of quite a few people out there upon hearing this news. My main point was that CDPR need to address all of these topics properly to instill confidence in their fanbase.
I've also seen you rabidly defending this game the past couple of days. Take a breather.
1:38 am, May 4, 2020
EH! replied to Multiplayer Discussion September 4, 2019 @ 2:04:35 am PDT
I don't really care tbh; I wouldn't rage about it or anything, but I cannot stand multiplayer games and really don't get why every single player game has to waste resources by integrating it.Originally posted by BlackLabel:Originally posted by FKA Fencer:The more is known about this game, the worse it gets. CDPR needs to properly address these topics with the fans.
How is them working on MP bad ? wtf is wrong with People...
1:38 am, May 4, 2020
Dragon replied to Multiplayer Discussion September 4, 2019 @ 1:31:46 am PDT
It's obviously going to be microstranaction-filled cash-grab garbage just like Red Dead Online and GTA Online.
This is nothing to be excited about. On the contrary: it proves false CDPR's previous public statements that Cyberpunk will have no microtransactions because "we leave greed to others."
1:38 am, May 4, 2020
CoolNatureBoy replied to Multiplayer Discussion September 4, 2019 @ 2:24:14 am PDT
no not microtransactions plzOriginally posted by Purpleetea:At this point they should add microtransactions and skins also.Originally posted by upuaut2:will fit well now that the game turned into a shooter. multiplayer is a most in such a case
1:38 am, May 4, 2020
Bluem replied to Multiplayer Discussion August 21, 2019 @ 9:47:15 am PDT
As everyone knows, CD projekt Red is thinking of including or not including Multiplayer Cyberpunk 2077. This situation is simply ideas and suggestions, I do not fully know the game or its programming or algorithms, it is simply a brainstorm for IF to implement multiplayer and why it would be worth implementing.
ONLINE SYSTEM
- Depending on the size of the map, 16 to 40 players should be included in a room, in free mode.
- Use a cheap system like p2p with a connection server (similar to GTA online, but more stable)
- In mission mode, only give player slots depending on the mission:
* When connecting to a mission, the player freezes and everything disappears around him, and loads the mission module + the players who are going to be on the mission (instead of waiting on a loading screen, that does very immersive to the game)
* To carry out a mission, go to the place (in free mode) where the mission is going to be carried out, so when the modules load, it does not look like the matrix in your eyes, if they cannot do it, for example, in an elevator. Example: You are in free mode and want to do the mission of sabotaging the security systems of a company called PolyCorp, you go to the back of the PolyCorp building, you enter an icon where the mission begins, a box appears to see if there is players or you are alone, you wait freely in that small space, and since the players are ready, the other players disappear from free mode, the new modules and players appear and now if you listen to what you have to do in the mission in the box of dialogue.
ECONOMY SYSTEM
- To avoid that the Economy in Cyberpunk online is good, DO NOT SHARE money with others, you have to earn it
- Do not sell money from the game with real money (it can be solved very easily with another system below)
- Use business system in free mode (Like GTA online) but much more detailed and better controlled:
* Buy improvements for your business: Security, industrial development, growth of the place (from a very small warehouse, to a corporate building) Hire paid guards (this could include players, and not to make it boring, players are given missions like : Be close to the owner's business (s), be close to the owner player and perform freemode missions with him, defend the attacked businesses that other players are attacking)
* Businesses are vulnerable, other players may come to attack other players' businesses, but they have to go through extensive business security (this includes turrets, NPC guards and players, doors that need to hack, police and vault difficult to hack)
* A business is expensive (not anyone can have one), the profits are good and passive (you only do the supply and sale missions or destination, a player guard can also do it for you, he receives a payment for it, if it fails, it will receive negative points in its file, these points can be seen by the other players at the moment a player stands in the freemode as a guard)
* You can win or lose everything if other players hit the business (to avoid fraud, such hits to business would only win 1/4 of the total profit the business has, you can't hit the same player for the same player for 1 day , even if it's another business)
COMPANY PROFIT SYSTEM CD projekt
- Sell skin Cosmetics
* These Cosmetics are visually unique and extraordinary
* To encourage the sale of these, you could make a single skin to all weapons, little clothing to players, simple paint to vehicles and a single skin to business, free floor, all properties
* These skin would be very original (not a simple gold weapon and that's it), for example: Your gun with a skin for sale, becomes an alien weapon (EYE, it would only look like an alien weapon and would shoot as such, but it would not affect the damage, or the rate of fire, etc.), or change your chip sales business,
* A business that manufactures robots (it is seen on the inside how they assemble them, how they package them, when selling them, the truck says: Robot company, etc)
* The cars could convert them on the outside to something different (only on chassis, nothing mechanical, except the visual) and on the inside change the interior.
* The clothes can change to have very elegant costumes, superhero costumes, etc.
- Sell Exp or Membership enhancers (something acceptable to not harm the gameplay of others, for example the Exp helps you buy new weapons, or have enough level to buy a business, or vehicles.)
More ideas and suggestions are accepted. Developers in charge and Owner, remember that it is a game made with the greatest programming and detail of all, make this game end in a singleplayer, it makes the game end in a short time and in the future you go into nostalgia and play it another time, then wait year for another installment.
Look at GTA cattle online and how it is still alive to date for its broad content, observe Fortnite's earnings ONLY for selling cosmetics, now merge all that in Cyberpunk 2077 and what do they have? Well the answer you know. Do not lose hope, ask the community how they would like to have a multiplayer, but do not end a project that, by a decision, can be fun for a couple of weeks, or it can be fun for a couple of years. Greetings and thanks for your attention.
12:04 am, June 6, 2020
Bluem replied to Multiplayer Discussion August 21, 2019 @ 11:07:47 pm PDT
Originally posted by leonebogazzi:i think it could work kind of like GTA but if they do this i hope they learn from Rockstar's mistakes
GTA online had a lot of potential, but I screw up when I enter content without consistency in the immersive like flying motorcycles, armed cars, etc. I only add content for you to buy money from the game and get it, they had no control or quality. If Cyberpunk online were almost the same, but much better and without focusing on charging for money in the game, it would definitely be an Online to remember many years, only that there are people who don't think so and believe that their opinion is what it should be . If you don't like online, then just don't play it and now, sometimes humans are very selfish.
12:04 am, June 6, 2020
Bluem replied to Multiplayer Discussion August 21, 2019 @ 10:59:16 am PDT
Originally posted by hashpipe123:The elder scrolls online was terrible, bought and played for like 3 days when it first came out. Those are mmos btw not rpgs. They have rpg elements but not a classic rpg experience I feel. Like I said just my opinion. Even swtor is an mmo first before rpg but did a decent enough job that it felt like an rpg. But I wouldn’t call it one.
The Elder Scrolls Online is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) developed by ZeniMax Online Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks.[1][2] It was originally released for Microsoft Windows and OS X in April 2014.[3] It is a part of The Elder Scrolls series, of which it is the first multiplayer installment.
source: Wikipedia, official Bethesda website
Release Date: April 4, 2014
In this moment, players online: 15,000 (only in steam)
Because you don't like a game, it means that others don't like it.
Thank you for your opinion, but I repeat: You need to know more about video games. I am sorry if that offends you
12:04 am, June 6, 2020
Bluem replied to Multiplayer Discussion August 21, 2019 @ 10:44:15 am PDT
Originally posted by hashpipe123:I didn’t even wanna read all that but multiplayer needs to stay out of the rpg genre if you ask me. When I’m playing an rpg I want focus on story. The story is never that great when online multiplayer comes into picture. Look at fallout 76 and see how that turned out. Another rpg that should stay single player. I don’t want multiplayer in my fallout games or elder scrolls, the Witcher, cyberpunk, mass effect, I don’t want multiplayer in any of my rpg’s. If I wanna play multiplayer there’s plenty of other genre’s that do it better and don’t ruin the experience. All my personal input of course
Give an opinion of a book you never read, I will tell you: It is very ingorant of you.
Regarding: multiplayer mode should be kept out of the rpg genre if you ask me.
You should take a tour of The Elder Scrolls Online, GTA Online, WOW, etc., etc.
The titles you mention, were created with the idea of taking money from people, were not made with quality. Anyway, it seems that you need a lot to know more about video games (with all due respect). Thank you for your opinion, but to give a more concrete opinion, you must read BEFORE YOU OPINATE. regards
12:04 am, June 6, 2020
BlackLabel replied to Multiplayer Discussion September 4, 2019 @ 2:21:38 am PDT
Originally posted by EH!:I don't really care tbh; I wouldn't rage about it or anything, but I cannot stand multiplayer games and really don't get why every single player game has to waste resources by integrating it.Originally posted by BlackLabel:
How is them working on MP bad ? wtf is wrong with People...
They just posted A LOT of Job offers for the MP part... your Point beign
1:38 am, May 4, 2020
BlackLabel replied to Multiplayer Discussion September 4, 2019 @ 1:42:08 am PDT
Originally posted by FKA Fencer:The more is known about this game, the worse it gets. CDPR needs to properly address these topics with the fans.
How is them working on MP bad ? wtf is wrong with People...
1:38 am, May 4, 2020
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